[illumos-Developer] interesting userland project -- non-trivial

[Garrett D'Amore]

On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 01:54 +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 16:34 -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 11:23 +1200, Ian Collins wrote:
> > > "Garrett D'Amore"<garrett at damore.org  <http://lists.illumos.org/m/listinfo/developer>>  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >/  So one of the tasks that someone who doesn't want to work on kernel
> > > />/  code, but is interested in a significant bit of userland work would be
> > > />/  to add the parallel/distributed features of dmake into the vanilla make
> > > />/  sources we have.
> > > />/
> > > />/  We need it to be compatible with Sun dmake, so that we don't have to
> > > />/  change a zillion lines of Makefile, nor ask other projects to do so.
> > > 
> > > Does this imply a move away form the Studio tools?
> > > 
> > > dmake may not be open source, but it is a tool we all have and one that wont be going away.
> > > 
> > > So long as the makefiles aren't changed so they stop working with the current version, why reinvent the wheel?
> > > 
> > > Interpreting the current makefiles is one problem, replicating the distributed features that make dmake so valuable is a much bigger task.
> > > /
> > > 
> > 
> > We don't have the source for dmake, so we can't fix bugs in it.  We also
> > can't port it to other platforms, which make projects involving
> > portability to other platforms much harder.  (For example, porting to
> > S/390, ARM, PowerPC, or MIPS. :-)
> 
> Guys, the OpenOffice.org team in Debian is using an Open Source dmake,
> which is said to be a modified version of the original public domain
> one. And it successfully builds OOo, and this is quite a huge and
> complicated piece of code, don't you think?
> 
> Am I missing something?

Its not the same dmake heritage as Sun's dmake, and I don't think it
supports the same Makefiles.  

If my understanding is incorrect, I'd like to hear it.

	- Garrett
> 
> > In fact, having a completely open tool chain is a real goal of the
> > project.
> > 
> > I would like people to be able to use studio if they want to.  But I
> > want that to be a choice that the developers or distribution builders
> > make.  It shouldn't be forced on them because we have no other choices.
> > 
> > 	- Garrett
> 
> 
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