[illumos-Developer] webrev: 278 get rid zfs of python and pyzfs dependencies

[Jason King]

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Ivan Nudzik <ivan.nudzik at gmail.com> wrote:
> I see Python bindings/api to ZFS management as a great benefit. Having
> similar ones for resource management (counterpart to newtask, dispadm...),
> network (counterpart to dladm, ifconfig...), IPF, zones... and Illumos going
> to be No.1 choice for many cloud/storage/HA systems adopters. We are now in
> 21st century and there is no place for C-mainly approach.... the same as we
> left assembler-mainly approach few decades ago. 'Hard work' has to be done
> by C and 'the higher logic' in productive scripting. It greatly improves
> solution delivery times and stability/security too. Python class of every
> manageable part of ON - ultimately sharp 'swiss knife' from best Unix ever!

That is not what this is about.   There is no issue with maintaining
python bindings for zfs.  The issue is the actual /sbin/zfs command
itself requires python to operate fully.  In other words, you cannot
administer zfs completely without python.  This is about removing that
dependency.

Having bindings (or really any public programmatic interfaces) for the
various administration commands is a separate issue (though a good
idea).

> ;-)
> On other side I understand the effort of keeping Python interpreter build
> solid and up to date. But comparing to Perl (Mono - there is some noise
> about it), Python takes less time to manage build. If there should be a
> scripting included, Python is the best choice from my point of view (and
> skills with other scriptings).
> And Ad. to comments in thread.... about *Real* developers and 'picking 1
> language': Real developers are those, who makes the most stable
> functionality on the least lines of code - no matter which combinations of
> langs; speaking only 1 language - it's a sign of analphabet nowadays - for
> example Google separates Java developers from "Java developers" by requiring
> also knowledge of coding in Python.
>
> That's my opinion...
>
> I.
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Garrett D'Amore <garrett at nexenta.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> http://cr.illumos.org/view/jpj55p64/
>>
>> This work was done by another Nexentian.  The goal is to eliminate the
>> use of Python from zfs, which was "split" into having some percentage of
>> its code written in Python and the rest in C.  (Fixing this is a step
>> along the road towards making python installation "optional" at Runtime.
>> The other dependencies are beadm and IPS.  We're working on both of
>> those as well, and not all distros will use IPS anyway.)
>>
>> Please provide feedback.  The timer on this expires in one week.
>>
>>        - Garrett
>>
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