alan.coopersmith at oracle.com
Tue Oct 12 10:58:46 PDT 2010
Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 09:11 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> Owen Shepherd wrote:
>>> Isn't Hal deprecated by it's author anyway? I'f my memory serves me
>>> correctly then it should be a goal to move off Hal anyway.
>> Yes, but they've only provided replacements for Linux systems, the
>> udisks/upower/etc. series of extensions to the Linux udev framework.
>> (DeviceKit was an interim step to those, but they killed DeviceKit
>> as well in favor of the u* interfaces, and churned through API's
>> in the process.)
>> Everyone else is on their own or stuck maintaining HAL.
>> To remove HAL, you'd need to provide replacement interfaces for:
>> - removable media mounting (Tamarack, the vold replacement)
>> - GNOME interfaces for power management & disks
>> and probably a few others I've forgotten.
>> Moving Xorg on Solaris from HAL to libsysevent for input device
>> hotplug notification and libdevinfo for input device discovery is
>> on my long-term todo list, but again, for now HAL is required there.
> I wonder if an interim step would be to make HAL a consumer of more
> standard interfaces and move it out of illumos and into either JDS or X?
> Alan, do you have any thoughts on that?
We won't be taking it into the X gates I'm responsible for, since we won't
be able to maintain it in the X group, and won't have any need for it once
I finish the work to move us off. SFW, JDS or the future Userland would
be possibilities I guess, if HAL only relied on stable interfaces - though
again, getting it moved in the Oracle-managed gates requires the team that
is maintaining it to be willing to move or the team owning those gates to
> (Its really too bad that we don't have a means to collaborate with
> Oracle here...)
E-mail still works.
-Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at oracle.com
Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System
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