[illumos-Developer] Solaris Future?

Тима ge-star at mail.ru
Tue Jul 26 05:47:47 PDT 2011




26 июля 2011, 15:11 от "C. Bergström" <cbergstrom at pathscale.com>:





 On 07/26/11 05:59 PM, Тима wrote:
> Hello, Illumos Team!
>
> My name is Tima, I´m new on this list.
> I repost this questions to this list from OpenIndiana New Developers list.
>
> I have some skills on using Solaris (Open, Indiana) as a workstation 
> and small workgroup server. And I like this OS.
> Due to changes that Solaris community (including as users as 
> developers) had to live through the last year I have
> few questions:
> Will it live? I mean will OpenSolaris/Indiana (and SunOS kernel 
> exactly ) _progress_? Not only live out it´s last days.
>
> Now I´m using OpenIndiana 148 on Samsung Q70. They appear wonderful 
> symbiosis!
> But freshly downloaded build 151 even DID NOT START on modern Acer 
> Aspire TimeLineX.
> As I think it means that SunOS kernel 5.11 is really old for our days. 
> It does not support Intel GMA built in Core i5 and maybe
> it even does not fully support Core i5 itself, it does not support 
> nVidia Optimus technology
>
There is already support for AVX in the kernel, but the Sun Studio/gcc 
that compilers that come with the system don't support it. libc/libm 
also don't have optimized versions, but this is rectifiable. (Our 
compilers/gcc should support it, but I've not tested on real hw + OI)Okay. This moment is clear for me now. I've switched AHCI to IDE and system started orrectly.
I can report it sees all of 4 cores (2 Cores by 2 Threads) CPU - i5-2410M 2.3GHz.








I'm unclear what's under the hood for Optimus support, but I suspect 
it's possibly a combination of Intel/NVIDIA driver support and enabling 
it in the bios.

Intel used to provide really good support on Solaris, but I'm not sure 
if that's still the case? If it wholly depends on the NVIDIA drivers I 
suspect it'll just work as it would on linux.
Absolutely true. Optimus - is
 technology to switch between nVidia and Intel GPUs.
I don't use 

stationary
 systems, but I think Optimus is used only on mobile platforms.
It's main goal 
is power saving.
As you said it depends on nVidia drivers.
"it'll just work as it would on linux
"
At the moment It works exactly as on Linux:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=144750








When you say it didn't start what *exactly* do you mean? Try flipping 
the ata/achi setting in the bios and seeing if that lets the live cd 
work. Also please try an older opensolaris to see if that works and 
report back.Switching SATA to IDE mode solved 151 starting problem.
Then I switched it back to AHCI, tried to boot OpenSolaris 133 - it booted correctly.
But now OI 151 boots good in AHCI mode, so I can't reproduce the bug. Even after full Power Off/On.






Good luck

./C
Here is some summary of hardware support:
Intel GMA does not work. It's detected as VGA Compatible vgatext. And starts in 1024x768
nVidia does not work (as expected). It is now turned off in BIOS.
No NIC (LAN, WiFi) is detected. No network at all.
USB3.0 does not work (nothing appears in dmesg when I insert flash drive in it).
USB2.0 works. Tested by mounting and viewing contents of VFAT drive.
Fn + Brightness/Play/Stop/Next/Prev keys don't work.
xev reports Fn + Volume Lower/Rise/Mute correctly but pressing this keys does not affect on system's volume.
Sound (Intel Cougar) works! It's amazing because it's not fully supported in Linux at the moment
 (some pin switching troubles).
Card Reader is not supported at all.
HDMI and VGA external outputs does not react.

The main question of my previous message was - will SunOS totally progress for ALL? Not for me individually.
Is there any reason to get involved? Or the system is now living it's last days and is half-dead?
Is it going to become "user friendly" OS (as it was few years ago)?
Or SunOS (and it's kernel) is a property of few developers who do some job on few company's demand for money?
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